# ExpedITioners Podcast
## Jeff Chao: Configuration as code for efficiency and automation.
Listen to the episode on [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jeff-chao-configuration-as-code-for-efficiency-and/id1641183838?i=1000634957170), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/1qpPdOxQBlT0BMVpmu242o?si=BmE_XbJQQ5ep9N8aBAUAFw), or [PodBean](https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-qpwzz-14fccce).
### Show notes:
As the Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer at Abbey Labs, Jeff Chao advocates for the implementation of configuration as code, emphasizing its pivotal role in streamlining processes and enhancing efficiency. Actively contributing to fostering trust and prioritizing outcomes over tasks, Jeff recognizes the importance of achieving tangible results through automation.
### Topics discussed:
- Jeff's introduction to tech?
- Enabling people to build things instead of just protecting them.
- Attending DEFCON as a teenager.
- Configuration as code for efficiency and automation.
- The creation of Abbey Labs.
- Easing into the adoption of configuration as code.
### Resources mentioned:
- [Abbey Labs](https://www.abbey.io/)
### Where to get in touch:
- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejeffchao/)