# Future of device management
## EP 5: Jesse Peterson: Open source communities for better MDM and career growth
Listen to the episode on [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-5-jesse-peterson-open-source-communities-for-better/id1641183838?i=1000578069894), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/6KfEzJKBOM16XDFAgj2PMA?si=OI2Eh9sfSmeKEACwWxXliw), or [PodBean](https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-n3hd4-12b2a6a)
Jesse Peterson is a Client Platform Engineer for Meta, contributor to MicroMDM, and creator of NanoMDM. In today’s episode, we talk with Jesse about how he’s used his involvement in open-source communities to develop better MDM tools and experience career growth. Listen in to learn how your organization can build a better device management strategy.
### Topics discussed:
- Jesse’s background and how he got involved with Client Platform Engineering
- Recognizing value adds of open source with MDM software
- The significance of getting involved with communities, like MacAdmins, and how they lead to career development.
- What led to the creation of MicroMDM and NanoMDM
- How to overcome the challenges of a Client Platform Engineer
- His top 3 pieces of advice for organizations working on building out their device management strategy
### Where to get in touch:
- [Find Jesse on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessecpeterson/)