# Future of device management
## Ep 1: Mike Arpaia: the story behind the creation of osquery
Listen to the episode on [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-1-mike-arpaia-the-story-behind-the-creation-of-osquery/id1627079895?i=1000565001475), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2K653S8HsXFTe5CGNr0e6H?si=LsZwvBnDT1enaNZT04j1YQ), or [PodBean](https://futureofdevicemanagement.podbean.com/e/ep-1-mike-arpaia-the-story-behind-the-creation-of-osquery/)
In today’s episode of the Future of Device Management podcast, we speak with [Mike Arpaia](https://www.linkedin.com/in/marpaia/) — co-creator and visionary of osquery and partner at [Moonfire Ventures](https://www.moonfire.com/) — a London-based VC firm focused on seed-stage investing in Europe.
### Topics discussed:
- Mike’s journey from a software engineer focused on security problems to a venture capitalist investing in leading startups.
- How a macOS compromise while working at Etsy led Mike to realize how little visibility organizations have into their Mac fleets.
- What motivated Mike and his co-creators to build an open-source project — and how they got management buy-in at Facebook.
- The tipping point where osquery began to gain traction with engineers at leading organizations.
- How it feels to see osquery continue to grow and evolve.
- Mike’s #1 piece of advice for those embarking on a journey of trying to understand what’s going on in the systems they manage.
### Where to get in touch:
- Follow Mike on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/mikearpaia)
- Visit [Mike’s personal website](https://www.arpaia.xyz/)