# Future of device management
## Ep 3: Chris Long: From osquery skeptic to believer
Listen to the episode on [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-3-chris-long-from-osquery-sceptic-to-believer/id1627079895?i=1000570741414), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/4XGrIZnd699m763j1iOvl6?si=-qztEmjOQiK3E_lnYb-8Yw), [Google](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL2Z1dHVyZW9mZGV2aWNlbWFuYWdlbWVudC9mZWVkLnhtbA/episode/ZnV0dXJlb2ZkZXZpY2VtYW5hZ2VtZW50LnBvZGJlYW4uY29tLzE5OTBkNDhkLTY5NjgtM2NjMy04NDgzLTNmNzllODRhMmY1OA?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwjw3ubU9ZT5AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ), or [PodBean](https://futureofdevicemanagement.podbean.com/e/ep-3-chris-long-from-osquery-sceptic-to-believer/)
Chris Long is a Staff Security Engineer at [Material Security](https://material.security/), and you might know him from some of his open-source work at [Detection Lab](https://detectionlab.network/). In the episode today, we talk about his work with Facebook and Uber using osquery, and his thoughts on the present and future state of cybersecurity.
### Topics discussed:
- Chris’s story and how he got into cybersecurity
- The day-to-day of a Staff Security Engineer
- How Chris used osquery while he worked at Facebook
- The benefits and power of osquery
- How Chris went from an osquery skeptic to seeing the strengths
- Why Chris started Detection Lab and how it helps security professionals
- Top tips for device management and security strategy for organizations
- Biggest challenges organizations face related to security today
- Changes we can expect to see in cybersecurity over the coming years
### Where to get in touch:
- [Find Chris on LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-long-4057b410/)