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# ExpedITioners Podcast
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## Huxley Barbee: The modern divergence of environments and security methodologies
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Listen to the episode on [Apple](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/huxley-barbee-the-modern-divergence-of/id1641183838?i=1000643562582), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/39gnqKiVnG0iU62qSAAcmW?si=1LsNsJEuQwuoo7W5OqBIsA), or [PodBean](https://expeditioners.podbean.com/e/huxley-barbee-the-modern-divergence-of-environments-and-security-methodologies/).
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### Show notes:
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Today, we’re joined by Huxley Barbee, a security evangelist at RunZero and organizer of Bsides NYC. In this episode, Zach and Huxley discuss the modern divergence of environments and security methodologies.
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### Topics discussed:
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- Huxley’s start within the security industry.
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- Making the industry a better place for newcomers.
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- Chasm solutions.
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- Comprehensive security visibility.
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- Methodologies of collecting data (on the network).
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- How “network” terminology has evolved.
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- “Deperimeterization”.
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- Modern divergence of security environments and efforts of discovery.
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- The top 3 important components that help round out a security program.
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- Agent-based collection compared to network-based collection.
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- The organization of Bsides NYC.
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### Where to get in touch:
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- [Linkedin](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jhbarbee/)
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- [Twitter](https://twitter.com/huxley_barbee)
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- [Mastadon](https://infosec.exchange/@huxley)
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- [BsidesNYC](https://bsidesnyc.org/)
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- [Runzero](https://www.runzero.com/)
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